Video Details: Now we ‘ ve talked about concierge medicine and direct primary care. Tell me about about businesses in particular. Say if you’re, a small business owner, how does direct primary care help you? What do you offer people that’s such a win-win situation? Why are people so excited about this? Dr. Smith: So employers have to do something in the benefit realm, which comes with a lot of legal structure, so it has to be done correctly. It’s hard, but it has to be followed. Now if employers are looking at health insurance, they need to understand what they’re buying insurance for: catastrophic things. It doesn’t apply to day-to-day. So it’s, not preventative. It’s, not putting gas in the car. Changing wiper, blades brake pads. Getting the alignment done. No, it’s for my tailgate just got ripped off my truck and that cost six thousand dollars to repair. I’m glad. I have insurance for that, but insurance companies are trying to grow into that day-to-day thing and micromanage. Even the filling up of the tank right going to your primary care doctor should not be on the list of things that insurances pay for, but the perception is, and these companies offer these full solution packages, but they’re loaded with fat. They’re too expensive and they’re, crushing companies next to payroll and primary care. Doctors i mean i don’t think people if you tried to find a primary care doctor these days. I mean you need to realize it’s really hard to find a doctor. Now you can find a doctor with five or six nurse practitioners, but to have that classic relationship with your doctor is something that’s, pretty much almost gone with the win, and that’s. What jeremy’s, trying to bring back for sure and in insurance, is not where you find that right, so employers have been kind of buying this. What they think is this full solution, but it’s. Not it’s too expensive. It’s, causing businesses to go out uh, just because of the cost of paying for insurance. They can’t compete, so direct primary care is a solution for patients and doctors. The question can businesses purchase this for you, so businesses can buy anything they want for their employees, but they can’t write it off as a business expense unless the irs says that’s, a legitimate business expense. When I started out, I’d, have business to say this is great Jeremy. Can you do this? For my five employees, I’m like yeah. This is how much it cost. I’ll, give you a discount. Then they call and say, “My accountant says I can’t write this off because it’s, not part of a qualified expense under obamacare.” So fast forward. In order for a business to pay for this, which it’s, welcome to do anytime right, but write it off as a business expense. It has to sit inside of a n entity . It can be a major medical plan which we can design right. That thing can be a minimal, essential coverage plan, a skinny plan that just barely qualifies for insurance or it can sit inside a health reimbursement account. So you found the loophole in order to do this, I found the the legal structures that you can put in. Okay, the legal structure, if you want to write it off, so the tax breaks for me expensing my hra, my direct primary care doctor all this. For my employees, inside of an hra, it costs less to put it in the hra legally. Compared to what now I can write off right and more than pays for itself right. So, yes, employers can do this. In a reimbursement – or we can put it in any health plan – that’s out there wow, so let’s. Dr. Page: So this is a win-win situation. Businesses save money. They have more control over the the kind of care that their that their that their employees are getting and uh the employees are happy because they have a one-on-one relationship with a primary care doctor who is actually proactive instead of reactive. So how is this going? Well, it’s out of the box. It’s been a labor of love. It’s, been fun, it’s taking off and it’s going to change health care. Some of that is taxing me. I’m getting great, because I have a practice to run and right. I’ve, got a team working on this that right, so it’s hard and you know if it wasn’t hard. Everyone would have already figured this out right. I am not special right without a reward there’s, no risk there’s, no reward without a risk, so Jeremy, what motivated you? I had to do things to people to get paid right, that’s, counterintuitive to what i went to medical school for right. So when the the breaking point was when i was working as hard as i could doing the best, i could I made less and less money right and I plotted it here’s, my cost and here’s, the the plot. It’s, going like this right here’s, my income and in the plots coming like this, and i looked at it in seven years, and these lines were gonna intersect, and this is a hobby. We’ve, always joked that you know we. It’s really true. The system is broken and the physicians are the ones that are suffering, but it’s, not just the physicians. It’s the patients that are suffering it’s, the businesses that are suffering. So what – and so this is a triple wind kind of scenario that you’re setting up right. It is viable, it works. Unfortunately, the money’s got to come from somewhere, and it was the folks in the equation that didn ‘t need to be there.–the fat in the swamp. Maybe finding out more about this. How can people contact you, Jeremy? email@example.com. They take ownership. The doctors are happy because they’re able to spend more time with people. I don’t think you realize the stress that most physicians are under. I mean most of we go into medicine because we like patients, we like to talk to people, patients get to know patients, but the way the system is now i mean i mean it’s, sucking the joy out of practicing medicine.
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On this episode we talk with David Hawley of the Arabia Steamboat Museum in Kansas City. He tells his story about how he got interested in searching for steamboats in the cornfields of Missouri and Kansas.
I’m Dr. Page, the best guy to see on the worst day of your life. I have with me David Hawley. David is almost like an Indiana Jones. David is a treasure hunter in a sense, and he’s going to tell us about an unusual find in a corn field in Kansas. How are you today? David: I’m doing well, sir. Thank you very much for inviting me on your show. Dr. Chuck: I’m glad you’re here on life’s about living. Typically, when we think of finding a boat, we think about the sea. David tell me about how you found a boat in the middle of a Kansas cornfield. David: Well, there was a back in the day, long ago, in the late summer of 1856, a steamboat called the Arabia. Loaded with 2. 22 tons of freight heading for the frontier with about 150 passengers. It left late August. Where was the frontier at that point 1856? Well in our world today, the frontier would have been just pretty near anywhere, but in their day they considered anything west of really Kansas city. Missouri was a state became a state in 1821, Kansas and Nebraska were territories. All of that up through there was pretty much wilderness. A lot of the first run of the trip by steamboat. They’d, get to Kansas City, maybe Omaha, and then from there points west. Steamboats not only transported passengers, but they carried lots of freight. If you were to compare them in our world today, they would be kind of like a fedex truck. Okay, you would go hear everything on them. You would you traveled to St Louis you’d. Go to the warehouses. You’d, pick out the things you wanted for your stores, you’d, put them on a wagon, take them down to the boat dock, put them on a steamboat, and a couple weeks later, they’d, show up in Omaha Sioux city, kansas city, wherever. Well, there were railroads, but there weren’t railroads to Kansas city. In 1856 there were lots of steamboats on the rivers. They called that the golden age of steamboating. The arabia left and took about five days or so to reach Kansas city. On september, the 5th 1856, it was dinner time. The sun was sinking. They drove that boat right into this tree that had washed into the river,, buried under the water. It began to fill with water and it sank, sank quickly.
So was this a passenger boat? It was it had. So this carried goods it carried people, people were just on vacation just taking a cruise. Well, maybe we don’t know a lot about the passengers. We found some of their belongings and people certainly did steam travel by boat for fun, but most people were people moving west.
They were going somewhere going west, they were, they were picking up and they’re going to the frontier. You know to start a new life out here and they they have everything they own. You know on this boat right in their their most prized possessions because they don’t travel like you and me.
They don’t move like you and i when, when we move today, we up a loading van full of stuff and away you go, but back then they carried their most precious. Things put them on the boat and i think it’s interesting so so anyway, so the boat sank and nobody died on the boat.
Apparently, is that correct? The missouri river wall is a very fast and dangerous river. It’s, not a deep river right. It’s 12 to 15 feet. Deep and steamboats are much taller than that right. The tree and sank, the upper part of the boat remained out of water for a while.
So everybody just ran from the top and with a row boat a little at a time. One load at a time took them to shore. They all got there carried what they could now for the people who had their luggage in the lower part down in the freight area downstairs right.
They couldn’t, get to that. Couldn’t, get them with water and mud lickety-split. No saving it so so david. How did you get into all this? I mean you, how did you become an excavator and and find this and hear about the boat? I mean, how was it discovered? Well, what seems like at least two lifetimes ago, [ Laughter ].
My dad my mom and myself and my brother were the heating and air conditioning business. We designed the air conditioner systems for homes and shops and repaired them, and i was out at a guy’s house working on his air conditioner.
This was about 1985. wow and and got it fixed, went inside to talk to the guy and he had the most unusual room on the far side of the room that i went into. You could see maps and pictures of old steamboats and on the left-hand side he had pictures of flying saucers where they landed and on the other side of the wall there was a full-size cut out of a bigfoot.
You know susquatch or whatever those things were real too, and he liked to talk about all that stuff and he did, but he got finally around to talking about steamboats, and that was really what interested me.
I didn’t care much about the other. Two, the sasquatch yeah i didn’t care about that, but i checked out steamboat books and i called my dad and my brother and and said: let’s join join me for lunch. I got to tell you about this guy that i met, so we went to a little hamburger.
Restaurant sat down there and the owner of the place. We knew him came out and sat down too. By the time lunch was over, they were saying dave. You go find a steamboat. We’ll help. You dig it that’s. What how this so they just just all you just that that started your passion, your pursuit of this, and i guess the rest is history david, that’s, how they say it didn’t it well.
How did you find this particular of the arabia? I mean what well what what were the events there in the search of steamboats you go to old newspapers, and you read all newspapers and um. I was looking for a boat.
It sank not here very far from kansas city, and so i got into a newspaper of 1856 and came across an article that talked about the steamboat arabia. A-R-A-B-I spelled just like the countries, so so you had to go back into libraries and find these old papers and look on microfinish and all that stuff back in the day back in the year, reels of microfilm look through all that stuff page after page after page After page yeah and here’s, this little video article, it wasn’t very long.
It said large and valuable cargo hits a tree, it sinks, no loss of life and cargo totally lost wow about all. It said it said also that it sank a mile from a town called parkville parkville. I know where that’s at it’s, not very far from kansas city, so i got some old maps of the river from back.
In those days and i drew the old map onto a new map – oh my river used to be because, oddly enough, strangely enough, the rivers change course now that’s, something that i don’t realize the missouri river was a very Fast river, the sides of the river are fairly soft, a lot of sand right and the river changes quick and easily.
So the river would move, and in this case it moved a half a mile from the time the boat sank until present day. Wow got the map came down a mile from parkville knew where the old river used to be, and then i took a metal detector out with the farmer’s permission and i walked up and down cornrows back and forth, and back and forth.
Looking for iron looking for something that would would look kind of like a steamboat under how long did it take you to find it just one day you’re kidding, so you know we pretty much pinpointed it pretty quickly.
That was real close now. If i to start on the far side of the field and walk the other way might have taken two or three days right, because i just happened to start here and went that direction to the left.
You know whatever. Then it was within the first day. So what did the farmer with the cornfield say? Did you think you were crazy? Like hey, i want to dig up a field and find a steamboat. Oh now, some farmers i’ve, talked because i’ve.
Looked i’ve, looked for a lot of boats and some farmers do think you’re a little nuts, but right. This fella was named norman. Okay, norman’s. Great great grandpa had owned the farm back in those days and they knew this boat came up the river and sank and, as the river shifted his course part of the folklore of his family was the boat was buried somewhere under that under that farm.
That had one spin river that now belonged to them wow, so he was. He was curious about it himself. He’d, been curious. Long before i ever showed up. He’d, curious about it as a kid he’d heard about it.
The rumor was the boat was carrying 400 barrels of finest kentucky, bourbon money could buy and he thought that would still be there. So he said dave. If you can find it, i’ll, let you dig it so that’s.
When i went looking for it and i found it wow, it was in a cornfield. So how long did it take you to excavate it from the time we started until the last artifact came out was four months wow. We did it all in the winter now it here in kansas city today, as i’m speaking to you, it’s about eight degrees above zero.
It’s, cold right very cold. Now, why’d? You get in the winter time. Well, because the artifacts coming out of the ground need to stay cold. The heat of the summer would damage a lot of things and the ground that we’re thinking is not stable and we’re.
Going to go down 45 feet to get to this boat, and so the walls have got to be frozen in place, so they don’t cave in on [, Music, ] and don’t flood. The river don’t flood in the wintertime, and there’s, no bugs in the wintertime and the farmer.
Don’t need his crops, his farm in the wintertime. So that is so interesting. You know it’s. You know it’s such an interesting way of life. There’s, so many things that we have have just forgotten in our modern culture, man.
You know i just want to encourage our visitors to go check out uh. This arabia exhibit there in downtown kansas city in downtown kansas city, missouri and uh man. It sounds like it’s, a great attraction, and i think people will really be interested.
You can also find david’s. Uh more information about the arabia exhibit at 1856.com. I have with me david hawley, here on life’s about living. Once again, just remind you that you can subscribe to this by texting lal to 66866, and that will get you into our all of our videos and podcasts and everything on life’s about living david.
It’s, been a real honor to have you. On this session. We’re, going to have some more sessions with david. We’re, going to ask him some more questions about this very interesting exhibit and the the old riverboat arabia, thanks for being on the show david.
Thank you very much for the invite you
Healthy Eating for beginners, tips by Alan Winters of Vigaroom. Watch this video:
How to eat healthy and begin a healthy lifestyle. Alan Winters with Vigaroom gives us some tips:
I’m Dr Page one of your hosts on Life’s about Living. We’re going to talk today with Alan winters. He’s the CEO and founder of vigoroom. It’s, an online health resource, and we’ve, been talking with him in the last episode about health, diet and all of these things–simple steps that we can make to learn about making good choices as this new year comes upon us. You can find the rest of these interviews on lifesaboutlivingshow.com
We’re, going to move right into it with Alan Winters. The founder of vigaroom. Alan, give us some tips on eating healthy.
Alan: We are laser focused on folks who don ‘ t presently take care of their health. That’s the audience we’re interested in, which is almost everybody. Folks who don’t, take good care of their health. How do we develop those habits and how do we change mindsets to get people to feel good about making these changes?
Healthy eating for beginners:
Dr. Chuck: We, doctors are the worst. You know it seems I’m, so guilty of saying Do, as I say, not as I do. I feel like for the past 25 years, I’ve sacrificed my health for everybody else’s, I had this moment during COVID, where I realized, What am i doing? I really need to start thinking about longevity and thinking about some of the just some some of the decisions that I’m making. So much of it has to do with lifestyle, and I really feel like that it’s the key for our for our nation as a whole, for the health of our nation, and for individuals–to start thinking differently.
You know it’s lifestyle, just everything that we do. I think of young families. They have kids and they go to work. Then they have to take kids to baseball games and then, of course, after baseball, you know it’s 8. 30 at night. You don’t, have time to cook and you haven ‘ t really planned a meal. We’re busy. And then we end up, by default, doing things that are very unhealthy. We go to the fast food restaurant and get some burgers for the kids after playing baseball.
Alan: You know, there are little things we could do to make simple lifestyle changes. It takes a little time to stop, really think, and assess. You know our habits and our lifestyle. You know, I agree in fact, even on on the point you just made.
Eating healthy 2021:
We have a program in our system that is a meal planning program from a financial planner out of Cincinnati. The whole point of this program, and I think it’s 10 days if I recall, is you have limited time and you have a tight budget. So how do you eat well? This whole program is basically teaching you how to do that part of it is making the freezer your breast, your best friend, and knowing how to use A freezer strategically it’s kind of fun.
When the next pandemic hits, and Chuck, it probably is not 104 years from now. It probably is quite a bit, sooner than we think.
Why not change your lifestyle now so that when the next one hits your likelihood of really disastrous circumstances, goes down. Your chances of staying safe or not getting really sick and not dying improves with good health.
Really, though, you know your chances of doing. Okay, go up a lot and it’s, so much of it’s in your control, so that’s. The buddy that isn’t that the good news Chuck so much of this is in each individual’s control. I do want to say this. If you failed the diets before, if you tried exercising, and it didn’t work for you, guess what? It’s okay. It’s totally okay. It doesn’t destine you to horrible nutrition and never exercising for the rest of your life. It doesn’t.
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Dr. Chuck: You know, I think that’s. So true, I think that’s such a great thing for our viewers. Just remember that sometimes in life we fall forward. You know it’s, not about perfection. It’s about direction and wow.
You know it’s, just so good. There’s, just such simple things that we can do to make our lives better, and i think we all have had some times of introspection, and i want to encourage our audience. You know check out vika room and to check out what alan is doing and just remember those simple things.
You know the journey. of a thousand miles begins with the first step. So diet and exercise. It’s, so basic. But we tend to always think about things that are more sophisticated. I think that was one of the real take-home message of messages of having you on Life’s about Living. It’s not that hard, Alan.
Alan: It’s not that hard Chuck, it isn’t and just for for your audience.
If this sounds interesting, you can go to your employer and say hey check out this business. It’s Vigaroom or vigaroom.com,. Vigor. Vitality. Energy.
I appreciate so much. You’re, giving me the opportunity to spend some time with you. I totally enjoyed it absolutely.
Dr. Chuck: Thank you so much Alan and I hope, Alan is going to be on the beach here in a little while. I’m really jealous every time I talk to Allen. He’s always out on the beach it’s, just not fair.
Allen: Anyway, living in Mexico on the beach, my breaks, my healthy lifestyle is taking a break and walking the beach. You know if you’re gonna work a 10-12 hour day.
You should take a break absolutely, but there’s, always a way. You know there’s wherever you live. Even if you live in downtown Chicago there’s some beautiful places that you can walk and I’ve walked the lake there. It’s, really nice.
Well, it’s great to have you on the show and uh, thanks for being on life’s about living and giving your hones opinion on how to start eating healthy and making simple lifestyle changes.
Alan: My pleasure have a have a wonderful rest of the day.
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Welcome to Life’ about Living. I’m, Dr. Chuck Page, and I’m here with the famous co-host Dr Joe Pettigrew. He needs no introduction, and so anyway, we’re, going to talk a little bit about what life’s about living’s about. You know, we’re coming out of a COVID epidemic don’t, you think john.
There’s so many people that are so worried about dying. They don’t, live yeah so and so that’s.
What we really want to get this show to be about, well there are so many mixed messages in the media. Don’t, you think Joe?
Well. I think so many people in the age that we’re here, focusing on baby boomers.
So much or are you know, people aren’t even getting out of their house absolutely where they’re not doing anything. I was talking to a guy, though today, and he said what’s, the good old days for you listen in his definition.
His definition was like pre-coping, but I just want our listeners to think for just a minute. We all did have a good old days, I mean at our age. We had a great days. You know there were times where we were growing up and our parents would buy us school clothes. And they didn’t say: what do you want to wear? They’d, go out to maybe Sears and
Roe buck or whatever, and they were number two pencils that was about all you needed.
You stand them up and when you come home from school you would take off your school clothes and you put on your play clothes. But before you went outside.
Chuck: Yeah you were rich Joe. Man. We had one pair of blue jeans. We wore them about three or four days
Joe: Once you went outside you, weren’t, afraid nothing yeah! You weren’t afraid somebody’s going to come up here.
You’re, going to get you or like abduct, your kids or whatever yeah, and you played with free stuff. Well, i’m, not really free. I’m in a bicycle or a baseball, or something like that yeah. I remember my sister playing with those little paper dolls.
They weren’t even real dolls, little paper dolls, so some people think back and they say golly now. Those were those were very uh that was so much more simple things uh and but you know you go outside you play like crazy.
You didn’t handle a bottle of water when it was over. You drunk out of a hydrant or the best water in the world was out of a water hose, i mean so the good old days we acted. I actually at my house. We were so mistreated.
I would have to get up and walk about three foot to the television and turn the channel for my daddy, because we didn’t have a remote. I can see you ‘ Ve got some emotions yeah, oh boy. I can’t tell you so the people that are listening to our program.
We know what it is for the good old days and right now we’re scared. Absolutely we have no idea what’s going on. I’m telling you. You know that’s. One thing you and i’ve, talked about because you’re, so brilliant in the medical field, but see i’m still standing here.
I don’t know what’s, going on with all this right anymore, joe. We’re, getting so many mixed messages from the media and i think so often uh. We we focus on the exceptions. We exaggerate issues and we begin the media begins to shut things down, so that’s.
One of the things we really want to get to we want to get to. You know back to kind of a semblance of of okay of reality and that’s. One of the focuses, i think, yeah but see. Sometimes what scares me sometimes is i’ll talk to people in the medical profession.
They say i’m, not going to get the bar shot. I’m, not going to take this. I got you and then i’m sitting over here is a totally nobody in the medical world scared. Do i take it, do i not do i go with them? Do i not? You know it’s, crazy, the things that we’re, seeing in today regarding this virus, you go out.
Some people have their mask on driving in the car down the road, but yet you go in. I looked at women to wrestle those i looked in the kitchen in there and the crack and the people back there were cooking didn’t have a mask on no, they’re coughing, all the food.
Probably it is so crazy. All the things like when we shut down all the stores, because we don’t want to make it covered, but you could go out at the walmart yep and you and a three billion of your friends without mask on.
We’re. Just having a ball, it is so we’ve got a group of people and one of the reasons a lot of people are watching our show now is they can’t get out. They want to touch a reality. They want somebody to come in and kind of tell them, so i guess the big thing for us is.
I don’t know that life will ever go back to the good old days that i remember, but life is gonna go back right. We’re gonna go where we can get out of the house again right, so life is about living and that’s.
The focus, i think one of the things that we want to draw out on this show is hearing stories of real everyday people. You know we always hear stories, it seems like from the heroes right and we want to.
We want to capture the stories of everyday folks. In fact, if you have a story to tell you can contact us on the contact page, we have some information for you and you can fill that out and maybe you we might want to interview you on the show and just hear your story.
Maybe a story of faith, but you know one of the things i find is so many people disregarded and they say i don’t really have a story, but i disagree. I disagree especially of the baby boomer generation.
It doesn’t. Take long and they start telling a story, and you think i wish everybody could hear that that’s, powerful yeah. I wish everybody could hear that. I wish you could write a book about it. You know, but that’s.
The kind of stories i think that we’re looking for are those stories that you hear mean something to you. You connect with it and uh. It makes us better people because of it right. Well, you know that’s.
One thing i want to encourage folks, if you just text lal or life’s about living lal to 66866, and we’ll, get you on our list, so we can send you these podcasts and these videos and this information that we Have we’d love for you to join us on the journey yeah? So you know one of the things, though, that i hear people say a lot of time.
Is i’m bored of death? You hear that i am bored because i hear that more from my kids and more from adults. They’re watching television, a lot, but it doesn’t matter. If we have four million channels, usually for most of us is only about four of them.
We like right and we just keep going back and forth and back and forth right, but we’re bored. But do you remember, i remember what my mother used to say about the biggest punishment you had as a kid when you were forced to stay in the house or going you’re, going to go outside, go to your room now with all the Screenaders and everything it’s, it’s kind of boring, but but so there’s a time coming.
When we’re gonna nobody’s. Gon na make us go in the house. We’re gonna be able to get outside the house, but what are we doing? What do we do in the meantime? What do we do in the meantime, because i’m, convinced that you know you can your blood pressure can go up? If all you do sit there and watch the nightly news every night? Absolutely you know, and so we’re.
Looking for programs, i think that make it that uplift us that make us feel good. My mom used to tell me said when i say i’m bored, you said well, then i’ll. Give you something to be more about. You. Remember that comment: well, we that’s, what the virus has done.
It’s, given us something to be bored about right right. You know here’s. Another thought on that. You know. I always remember what mr rogers said when he watched something bad on the news. He would always his mother would always say now.
Just watch there’s, always in every tragedy. There’s, good people there that are doing things. I always thought about that, and so you know that’s, the thing so often don’t. You think, oh boy, you know that’s, how we perceive and how we look at things, but that’s, not what sells in the media absolutely what cells in the media are.
All the crisis is going on, not that person that that goes out every morning and picks up every one of his neighbors newspaper and leans it on their door. Just because he wants to be nice, you know or or the person that runs people’s, garbage cans back and forth to the house, elderly people.
I mean there’s, so much that we can do and not yet be exposed to other people right or takes a little old lady to their doctor’s office appointment. Well, i’ll. Tell you just those little expressions of faith, hope and courage, make a big difference.
Yeah, when you know – and i know there’s safe ways of doing things and not safe way right, but as a generation, we grew up with the unsafe way of doing things. What do i mean? I didn’t, have a car seat, did you have a car seat? As a matter of fact, i remember my daddy sold a car four years after he bought it, and it still had the plastic on the seat belt, where we never took it out and used it.
So we’re. We wrote in the back of a pickup truck. Well, i didn’t, have yeah, i didn’t, have a seat belt; no, it says step side. So so we grew up in a generation now and and that have all that we really we really weren’t that safe and now somebody’s telling us you got to wear a mask every time you walk out the door.
You’ve got to wash your hands every time and it’s just hard for us to to have something to do with that. Absolutely well guys! Uh! We just want to welcome you to glass about living. You can text lal to 66866 and that will get you connected with our podcasts and our shows and uh just always good to talk with dr joe.
He’s always got a unique perspective on things, so we’re, going to see you in the next episode and welcome.
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Chef Philippe has one basic philosophy about cooking and ecosystems: If you Can’t beat eat, em!
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I’m Dr. Page, the best guy to see on the worst day of your life. I have one of the most interesting guests with me today: chef Philippe. He is in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Is that correct?
Chef Philippe: Yes, it’s very correct.
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Dr. Chuck: Now. Let me tell you about Chef Philippe and cooking carp. I’ve been looking on his website and his you tube channel. He is quite the renaissance man. Chef Philippe is originally from Paris, but he moved to Louisiana many years ago as a chef. He’s got involved in conservation and ecosystems. Get this: a chef saves the ecosystem. Chef Philippe.
Have you ever been to Paris, Texas?
Philippe: No, I’m waiting for an invitation.
Dr. Page: Well, you’re, really not missing much. They do have a little copy of the Eiffel Tower if you go there. So, by the way I’m from Texas, Chef Philippe and I don’t, go into Louisiana. It scares me to death.
I’m afraid they’d throw me in one of those swamps down there and I’d never get out. You’re quite a brave guy coming from Paris to Louisiana. Tell me tell me, tell us a little bit about your story about how you got there.
Phillipe: Well, first uh. I am French. I blend well with the Cajuns over here. I have to understand the dialect. The old French. I do have a different dialect.
Dr. Chuck: It’s Oui, Oui, Merci, beaxcoup.
Philippe: My nickname was Frenchie. I have many friends all over Louisiana. I love the culture and I feel, like I’m in the countryside of France. Absolutely yes. So it really helped me to stay here and make Louisiana my home.
Dr. Chuck: For sure right? So you found a lot of similarities as far as the culture and the language. What was different about Louisiana?
Philippe: Well, um! You know the history itself is is phenomenal. I mean that’s when, the French were up in Canada. When they got kicked out by the English, they went down the Mississippi and they landed right at the end of the Mississippi.
You know by the delta and then they made Louisiana their home. It was an abundance of wildlife. They could fish or hunt or trap. They would put it up into that black pot and whatever they could put into it and put a roux. You know the family roux. Put it up together and they had a gumbo. Some kind of soup, if I may say, it was a meal. And that’s, how they survived. So gumbo started–like a poor meals.
IF you can’t beat them eat them:
Now in Louisiana, what you heard about the buyer best right? No, what’s that the best in in France and South France bouillabaisse a fish soup. It’s very popular. Well, it started to be a poor uh uh men’s meal, because that was a trash fish. Fishermen could not sell it so they made a soup out of it, but it ended up to be the best soup ever made.
I mean I think that’s, one of the amazing things about you. As I’ve been looking at your website by the way the name of your website is cantbeatemeatem.com.
Philippe: I came up with that probably 25 years ago.
Dr. Chuck: Well, what’s so neat about it is how you’ve, how you’ve, taken all these problems and turned them into possibilities. I think that’s, a great thing.
So let’s. We could start about any one of these type of animals. In fact, I’ve, been watching your youtube channel. You know I’m, a surgeon. I’ve, been watching you dissect. These fish and and dissect these nutria. Man, you ought to be a surgeon.
You’re, pretty good with the knife.
Philippe: Well, I don’t know about surgeon that’s for sure. I’ll leave it up to you on that one. I grew up uh trapping and hunting. I grew up as a kid in the 60s and, you know, France was still getting rebuilt from world war II.
We really didn’t have uh the luxury of going to grocery store like we do today. Really so meals were coming from mother nature. You go in the woods and you go fishing hunting, trapping picking, mushrooms chestnut whatever you could. That was the meal.
You know so um you got to know how to dress. You know the wrap the white rabbit, the wobble or you know anything like that or fish, and – and i learned that when i was a kid growing up so so so you just fit right into the cajuns there in louisiana man they just they just they just Opened their arms and said, come on in brother, we, we yeah the my mentality, was a little bit uh different.
My approach into the food culture um had that background, uh of of getting uh the the wild beast out of the wood and make it as a meal, but also i learned to my profession how to become the gummy chef i mean yeah.
You know i get the honor to prepare a meal for president bush and president ford so uh. You know, i know my business but um um. You got to have that mentality and that open mind that actually um you could take the the the swamp rat.
For instance, the nutria yeah, then they turn it into a dish that is spectacular and if you don’t know it is a swamp right. You’ll eat it and you say: oh my god. This is really good. You know well, nutri is kind of like a it looks, like kind of like a beaver or a bigger.
It’s kind of a large rat, and we ‘ Ve got pretty big. You know we’re texas. We got some pretty big rats. Yeah, these things are huge. They’re, at least the size of a football. Some of them here here’s, a problem, so it’s, kind of that nickname, a rat because it looked like a rat, but actually it’s, a it’s, a vegetarian.
It’s. A herbivore and they’re very clean animals, so it’s. Just a question of educating people about it. Uh a rat is an omnivore. It will lead to pretty much anything right, but those nutria they they really are they dive.
On the water they will eat uh roots and stems of plants which is high protein and um, and they they extremely nutritious. I mean the meat itself of nutria is extremely nutritious, the highest in protein content and the red meat period.
What is happening to the to the ecosystem in Louisiana with the nutria? I guess people have not been really. I haven’t been eating nutria because uh it’s. So what’s happening in Louisiana because we spoil with all the food that’s? Why is that? It is? Absolutely absolutely you know we we in America, we we, we’re, really blessed uh.
We are spoiled with food, you know it. I mean. Why should we adventure ourselves in eating a nutrient rat when, when you get access to so much food right, right, so uh, but but uh? Talking about your your question about the the ecosystem and the devastation from nutrias um, you know the wetland here.
Um in um, in louisiana in the gulf states actually is uh, is losing its ground really fast and uh. The vegetation barrier, uh kind of slow it down, and it was nutria when that they eat that vegetation.
So the erosion come up faster and we’re losing land faster. That’s. Why, 25 years ago I worked with the state department. The U. S. fishery, federal fisheries, and did that promotion about eating meat.
So we could put a value on the nutria and get the trappers going there and make it as a business. You have to be a business. Have you been effective in that? Oh absolutely, i was actually the leading chef on on that promotion. We did it for three years, but you know again, you know it’s founded in the part by the the state and the federal government, and you will think that all Those agencies will communicate.
You know to make this work right right, and then you have the fda at the uh usda that come up out there with these hard rules that you know you got to go catch the nutria alive, bring to a slaughterhouse get expected.
I mean you can do that it’s impossible. Do you have to have a license to kill nutria in losing? Well yeah a hunting license a basic hunting license that’s. All it’s, nothing, but it’s not like like, for example, in texas.
We have a deer license where you can only kill, maybe one two deer. You know no, but that’s, not restricted, because it is an invisible pieces, so uh uh. Actually I’m sure that um, the the policymakers will encourage to trap nutrias all year round because look at the wild boar all year round.
You can take one more and trap it and eat it. So so what kind of dishes do you like to make with nutrients? Oh, my God! Well, there is many, but you know you have to to talk simplicity for a year and um so uh, so they can duplicate what you do and and and make it as a solution to that problem.
So, you know. If you know to make a gumbo, which is very popular, you know uh, i i would absolutely recommend to make a gumbo out of it. I mean you, take the nutria uh. You can put it on a barbecue pit very easy season.
It just like you will do a pork loin, for instance, and then you can take when it’s fully cooked you take most the meat of the bones and you can put it into a a a gumbo pot or yeah with pasta. You know or make a race a dirty rice with it.
Dr. Page: We Texas people think the people over there in Louisiana eat crazy stuff. I was looking at some of your menu on your website which, by the way is cantbeatemeatem.com.
One of them was nutria, a la orange.
Philippe: Well, you know a lot of people., ask me what what the meat compared to and it’s really compared to to duck. If you may say really like duck uh it’s kind of dark and and and concerned.
Maybe any protein yeah and the canal duck allorance is a very famous dish in the whole classic right. You heard of that with another orange sauce, so i did one similar with with the nutria, because you know you can do it.
It’s about innovation. What is your favorite dish to make with nutria? Well, i’ll. Tell you what i love nutrient sausage because uh you know you number one. You have to blend it with some some some pork fat.
You know like you, will do uh the deer sausage, but it’s. Really. You know you can put up with all kind of sauce. You know and it’s a good meal and – and i love that it’s. Simple you, you can get to your uh, get the nutria, bring it to your sausage maker and he’ll make the sausage for you.
You don’t have to do it, but it’s, a good meal. It’s, really enjoyable, everybody eat it because they identified to it. You know what is that. Is that, like a breakfast sausage, or is that, like a sausage like for like an italian dish, you need it for breakfast.
If you want, i mean actually, i did eat it. For breakfast. I brought it to uh my fishing camp and grilled it and had it for breakfast. For sure i mean lunch dinner absolutely but uh. My second one would be uh the nutria stew.
You know with one mushroom, like the chong trail that you have actually in texas as well, sounds great and make a stew. You know with the red wine um that’s. Also incredible. You know like a rabbit stew, hey so uh for our lives about living audience.
I have with me today chef philippe and you can find him at cantbeatemeatem.com.
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